David Crompton Also—if you if you never took a run at it back in 2010 the Edge’s annual question http://edge.org/annual-question/how-is-the-internet-changing-the-way-you-think was a fantastic collection! 4 weeks ago
GrEtcHen This one ‘The Rise of Collaborative Consumption’ touches on it… http://www.ted.com/talks/rachel_botsman_the_case_for_collaborative_consumption.…
But it was another one I’m thinking of that really broke my brain. I’ll try to find it. 4 weeks ago
David Crompton @JP I think it’s time to hit that Lanier piece http://edge.org/conversation/the-local-global-flip — BTW I recommend watching it or listening to it first as it really is quite conversational and you get some meaning from the way he says things. Anyway–he jumps around a number of ideas but I think anyone intersted in the conversation we’ve been having here would find it intersting and enriching. 4 weeks ago
Jason Paul @GreTcHen send a link if you remember what it was! I used to be a free everything believer and on a certain conceptual level, utopian world and all that I’m still there. But in the here and now Rdio, netflix and all that kinda stuff is making a lot of sense to me. 4 weeks ago
GrEtcHen @JP I think it’s possible, and I believe it’s a good thing (although I heard some interesting arguments for “free everything” over on TED a couple months back…really challenged my thinking so hard, I couldn’t absorb it fully, and can’t recall the reasoning off the top of my head) 4 weeks ago
Jason Paul @Dave Crompton I finally got to reading that Quora thread. I have to admit that I’m pretty careful what I listen to on Rdio. That heavy rotation on Rdio is so sensative I fear one listen of Adele and she’ll show up instantly and won’t leave for months (and I don’t dislike Adele, but I really do subconsciously avoid it).
@GreTcHen i regret I never was hip to Lala. I can’t tell if you agree with me that streaming music/media will stop piracy or if you’re skeptical. 4 weeks ago
GrEtcHen @JP: to your point about MP3s. During cd trading days at Lala, it was a process among the membership to educate each other that “rip & ship” — receive a cd, rip it, then ship it back out to get another one — was illegal, wrong. Same idea as MP3s, because both are merely a license to play the contents. If you don’t hold title to the media (plastic disc, a file), you are not entitled to play the music. And, you definitely do not own it.
This is why the idea that streaming music could help stop piracy is interesting. The concept of pay-for-play is much clearer for the consumer. 4 weeks ago
Jason Paul Here’s some more interesting reading for the day:
Should Facebook, Google or Amazon Own All of Your Data? http://www.readwriteweb.com/enterprise/2011/09/should-facebook-google-or-amaz.p…
How Facebook Mobile Will Evolve With HTML5 http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/how_facebook_mobile_will_evolve_with_html5…
On the later article I tip my hat to Facebook for sticking with the world wide web as opposed to creating yet another app ecosystem. I think this ties into the net neutrality debate. We all want the the web to be in one place but the web could fragment for very practical reasons. @Nohbdy great counterpoint with that article on how over regulation is just as bad.
To the point of owning your data (the first link I posted) I think it’s really a crucial thing, which is why I’m totally into WordPress and now Diaspora.
To circle back, a reason that I love Rdio’s core service is because it’s giving me unlimited access to media that I know I don’t own. (This I believe is the inherent deception in purchasing mp3s…intellectual property you could never hope to own). I believe their API may be open enough to allow a develper to build an application that could pull your Rdio user data out in a logical/decipherable way (as opposed to a CSV or something). 4 weeks ago
Nohbdy And here’s where over regulation could lead us: http://www.internetevolution.com/author.asp?section_id=852&doc;_id=234015&a…
Of course these aren’t the type of regulations that we’re talking about here but this is one of the things that is being used as a scare tactic in regards to the FCC’s regulations.
@LU: That is a central part of the debate. The current ruling body for the internet, The FCC, has no say over wireless phone services, which is becoming a bigger peice of the pie everyday. Some argue that since this is the case that the FCC has no business near internet services at all. Some argue that the same rules that they are trying to apply to “wired” internet should also apply to Wireless. This is meeting opposition from the wireless providers because more people oare online all the time and streaming downloads take up so much more of their bandwidth, this being one of the leading causes behind AT&T;’s infamous dropped calls. There are simply too many people on their network and it can’t handle it. On the wireless issue I will admit I am on the fence; I see the need for the protections offered to the wired communities, but the resources are already so strained that they may not be enforceable. By the way the “Wired” ISP companies are pulling from how the wireless has operated almost from the beginning to structure the plans that they are proposing. 4 weeks ago