The State of Digital Music: The Rdio Conversations

David Crompton I’ve got invites too, if Jason runs out… 4 weeks ago

Jason Paul @Lacey it just gets you to one of the main pods. You don’t need to get the software/seed. But that’s definitely an option. I haven’t tried it yet because I think it requires a bit of developer bravery. But when I get some time I plan to setup a pod on my own server (mainly so I am hosting and responsible for my own social data) 4 weeks ago

Nohbdy For any one interested: http://www.facebook.com/terms.php 4 weeks ago

Lacey Underall What does a Diasporo invite get you? Do you need it just to get the software and a seed, or is it only if you want to join a pod? 4 weeks ago

GrEtcHen Excellent, thank you JP. 4 weeks ago

tod nelson Wow, thanks Jason. Very cool of you. 4 weeks ago

Jason Paul gRetChen and tod i’ve sent them to you via facebook. Anyone else interested? Share your email with me via Rdio and I can send you an invite! 4 weeks ago

GrEtcHen If one person gets one, do they get more to hand out in return? I’d like to try it and compare too. 4 weeks ago

tod nelson I’d love to check out Diaspora. Anyone sitting on an unused invite? I don’t want to wait until the end of Oct! I’ll trade it for my 14 unused Spotify invites! Ha. 4 weeks ago

GrEtcHen @Nohbdy, I’m totally good, hope you are too. This whole discussion is very very VERY thought provoking… I don’t find anyone here biased, just different points of view. Not looking for an echo chamber on this, any more than I do regarding music… 4 weeks ago

Nohbdy @gretchen: I’m more of a middle of the road kind of guy, unfortunately as our society has tended towards the extremes lately (not talking about here) I end up being the person defending the side that is being harassed/complained about. Since the anti-FB argument was in capable hands here I haven’t mentioned any of my feelings on that side of the subject. This has made me sound biased. I do have concerns about the sharing of information but I have on the whole been satisfied with FB handling of it. There have been hiccups (as with any large entity) but I have seen FB see these issues and respond to them fairly quickly. 4 weeks ago

David Crompton On another lighter part of the discussion here’s something I posted to G+:

There’s been a lot of conversation surrounding the recent Facebook integration with Rdio [and others ] in my music circles. One thing that seems to keep coming up is people’s concern about their crappy musical choices being broadcast for everyone to see. I don’t worry about this too much, myself—my scrobbles, all sixty some-odd thousand of them to date, have been posting to Last.fm since 2006. I assure you that my finest most stylish threads are hung on that line along with my Santa Claus boxer-shorts. That said, posting live information to FB’s ticker has given me pause…so why do we care? Dan Kaplan wrote this thoughtful answer on Quora… http://www.quora.com/Why-are-some-people-so-embarrassed-about-what-songs-they-l… 4 weeks ago

Jason Paul @tod my problem is that we’re trusting these guys with our stuff. The longer we stay on Facebook the more value we put into it. But it’s not our data anymore. I’m an open web guy and I feel like Facebook represents a closed web where they increasingly make the rules and call the shots. I’m holding out hope for an open source social network application that I can host on my own web host yet still interact with other social networks (FB, G+ etc). Diaspora seems the most promising at the moment. Something for social to follow the success of the WordPress model. 4 weeks ago

David Crompton I think somewhere between contrarian and alarmist is probably the sweet spot on this debate. I definitely come from the Grandpa Jack school of analysis – – we just have to be honest and relatively thorough when we answer that one question. 4 weeks ago

Lacey Underall It think what some of us are worried about is that your Facebook account is going to become the equivalent of your SSN or worse if it isn’t already.

3 thoughts on “The State of Digital Music: The Rdio Conversations”

  1. Great post and comments!

    Right. So… Is Rdio the Future of Music?

    The problem with these sorts of “x is the future of y” discussions, particularly where technology is concerned, is that x always changes the nature of y. Because of this, you can never quite arrive at point y.

    I see Rdio and it’s ilk bumping into a few issues shortly that run along these lines:

    1) The closer these services get to delivering on the promise of offering “almost everything” in the world of music, the more they will underscore what isn’t offered. Put another way, how much music needs to be available to make up for the fact that what you want to hear right now isn’t?

    2) Part of the appeal of these services lies in the social aspect, which presently is built on the enthusiasm of early adopters and music nerds. The tone and quality of the social interaction will change as more users sign on. Will Rdio still be compelling?

    3) Rdio is presently a novel way of trying to monetize music in a time where monetizing music is difficult. It’s an experiment that is occurring concurrently with other experiments at trying to resuscitate the monetization of music. A verdict will be reached. Recent high profile releases by Coldplay, Black Keys, Tom Waits — to name a few — are not present on Rdio. Presumably this is because posting on streaming services is viewed as possibly undermining the success of other channels, both experimental and traditional. Is this the start of a verdict being reached? Will this assessment be shared by others?

    Just a few thoughts.

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