The State of Digital Music: The Rdio Conversations

@JP. Now I’m really depressed. 4 weeks ago

Biker Chick How to stop your Facebook apps from sharing. http://tinyurl.com/5wmhdvf 4 weeks ago

Jason Paul Here’s an interesting article in the Guardian about what we lose by Facebook centralizing our Identity: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/sep/27/facebook-open-graph-web-underc…

I’m a big believer in hosting one’s own data on a server you pay for and maintain. Responsibility. 4 weeks ago

Biker Chick @lacey Don’t ask how long it took me to figure out what… FTR… stood for. HA! I channel my energies in other directions sometimes, you know instead of using it for intelligence. There is only so much to go around.

4 weeks ago

Nohbdy Re: Last.fm I believe last.fm is still owned by CBS so I would assume that they use the date for they’re own marketing purposes. 4 weeks ago

Lacey Underall True. I know so many people who for years I’ve been telling them about subscription services and they were all “Sounds stupid.”

Then Spotify rolled out and they tried it and almost right away became premium subscribers and they think it’s the greatest thing ever. But what they like about it is just the subscription model, not any particular Spotify-unique feature. To them Spotify IS subscription radio. They’re not even interested in trying out MOG, Rdio, or Rhapsody.

Only thing with rdio is… I’m not sure they are ready for the big-time. The reviews would get spammed to high heaven for one thing. The site seems to stall out now at busy times, so they are near capacity at some chokepoint or other. 4 weeks ago

GrEtcHen As I’ve said before, until FB adds some more functionality around it, I won’t spend too much time exploring music over there.

For starters, I want to queue tracks to my preferred provider. I’m not going to sit over there going “press play…listen in Rdio…press play…listen in Spotify…press play…listen in Mog…press play…oops, don’t have a Rhapsody account, so have to sign up before I can hear that one”. Too much work.

It’ll be interesting to see if they enrich the features. I assume for now they will. The focus right now is driving people who don’t subscribe to streaming to try out some services. That’s why all the services are scrambling to add free membership options. Rdio needs to roll this out NOW. As Tod Nelson and others have pointed out, FB presents an opportunity for Rdio. But if they don’t do this quick, people will naturally gravitate to Spotify’s free service, and later migrate to paying customers when Spotify eliminates free. 4 weeks ago

Lacey Underall FTR, the way to drop a free spotify account is to go to your profile and edit your email address by adding .del to the end of it.

Really the only thing that sticks in my craw is forcing me to have an FB account to use Spotify. Other than that, FB can add as many bells and whistles as they want. It makes sense to be able to share playlists or music with people who don’t subscribe to rdio. People can always choose not to use that feature, or not to join FB at all. Like on Rdio, I don’t have the FB stuff activated.

So I would really complaining about Spotify rather than FB. But since Spotify and FB are closely linked, it’s kind of tough to know how much input they had in it. 4 weeks ago

GrEtcHen Last.fm really missed the boat on this. I wonder what will happen to them. Scrobbling there is intensely popular right now, but they have terrible social around it. I assume Last.fm is using all that aggregated data for something…and FB will be competing directly against them. I don’t see how Last.fm can avoid getting marginalized, as FB continuously expands all sorts of data that can be correlated. Last.fm only has scrobbles. 4 weeks ago

Biker Chick Did someone post this already? http://tinyurl.com/3lxy374 4 weeks ago

Rhett C LARPing XD lololol – awesome 🙂 4 weeks ago

Rhett C Lacey, I have a different point of view on Facebook’s implementation of OpenAuth.

As a user, I’m happy to avoid creating one more login, I have dozens of accounts to keep up already. All other things being equal, I feel better about having Facebook (continue) managing my credentials instead of the average site’s development staff. There are plenty of pro’s out there sure, but there are also quite a few fly-by-night devs managing sensitive information. Facebook stands to lose a lot if there was a security issue with their authentication/authorization systems.

3 thoughts on “The State of Digital Music: The Rdio Conversations”

  1. Great post and comments!

    Right. So… Is Rdio the Future of Music?

    The problem with these sorts of “x is the future of y” discussions, particularly where technology is concerned, is that x always changes the nature of y. Because of this, you can never quite arrive at point y.

    I see Rdio and it’s ilk bumping into a few issues shortly that run along these lines:

    1) The closer these services get to delivering on the promise of offering “almost everything” in the world of music, the more they will underscore what isn’t offered. Put another way, how much music needs to be available to make up for the fact that what you want to hear right now isn’t?

    2) Part of the appeal of these services lies in the social aspect, which presently is built on the enthusiasm of early adopters and music nerds. The tone and quality of the social interaction will change as more users sign on. Will Rdio still be compelling?

    3) Rdio is presently a novel way of trying to monetize music in a time where monetizing music is difficult. It’s an experiment that is occurring concurrently with other experiments at trying to resuscitate the monetization of music. A verdict will be reached. Recent high profile releases by Coldplay, Black Keys, Tom Waits — to name a few — are not present on Rdio. Presumably this is because posting on streaming services is viewed as possibly undermining the success of other channels, both experimental and traditional. Is this the start of a verdict being reached? Will this assessment be shared by others?

    Just a few thoughts.

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