The State of Digital Music: The Rdio Conversations

David Crompton @Gretchen It looks like that could be an possibility in the future but they don’t yet have a Rdio channel yet [the piece that connects to the API] 4 weeks ago

Nohbdy But who is responsible for it in the first place? Is it FB for providing a way to post it for those that think everybody really wants to hear about their latest Mob Wars escapade or is it those individuals that you (most likely) call Friends? 4 weeks ago

Lacey Underall I personally feel like filtering stuff out is not the same as not getting (or sending) that stuff in the first place. 4 weeks ago

Nohbdy I’m pretty sure that if you see trivial shit in you FB feed then you or your friends are responsible for putting it there not FB.

If its games you’re tired of seeing you can usually block post from said games without blocking your friends. If you liked something but don’t want it posting in your feed tell it not to show updates from that source. IMO they have made this relatively easy to do so I don’t see what the issue is, but I obviously don’t subscribe to the popular train of thought. 4 weeks ago

GrEtcHen JP, how do you tell that? The ticker (it’s still not showing up in mine)?

LU, I created a “Music” list which has only my music friends on it. Basically, the people whose musical tastes I am interested in. If I click on the list link, I see just those friend’s activities, including their listens.

If I click on the Music app link instead, I believe I’ll see the listens (and only listens) of my full circle of friends.

I believe you can make “lists” of any sort, with any subset of people you want. I think there’s even a way to “subscribe” to activities of people you aren’t friends with (if they have allowed the feature). I guess that’s for celebs who want to show off, but don’t want to deal with adding everyone in the world.

It’s all trivial shit. Don’t have an answer for that… 4 weeks ago

Lacey Underall Picture a Venn diagram with a set of “People I’m interested in knowing what they are listening to right now,” “People I’m interested in knowing what they are doing right now in a mundane, daily activity sort of way,” and “People facebook wants me to follow.”

There would be one gigantic circle for the last group. Pretty much the entire population of Earth. Inside that huge circle would be tiny circles representing the other two sets. The intersection of all three sets might contain… maybe 5-10 people, tops.

I don’t see why I should be forced into a giant, universal-sized circle of trivial shit I do not want so I can find a the tiny needle in a haystack that is the head-of-a-pin-sized group of “friends with great music taste who also actively listen to new music.” 4 weeks ago

Jason Paul @grEtcHen that looks really interesting. I’m friends with about 5 of you on Facebok out of 200 friends and Rdio is the top subscription media provider in my own feed. Rdio users are definitely serious about their music. 4 weeks ago

GrEtcHen @JP …Possible workaround for getting notifications when something happens on Rdio. Haven’t tried it yet… http://ifttt.com/wtf

Willing to try the FB thang, since I agree it’s an opportunity for Rdio…let’s see what happens. Without ability to queue listens up, not sure FB driven listens are much more than a curiosity at this point. And a way for FB to drive new customers to music streaming services. I don’t explore by ad hoc plays, pretty much only by adding to my q…maybe others do? 4 weeks ago

Jason Paul @Rhett I have a natural aversion to being harvested. It is probably juvenile but one of those feelings in the gut that I just can’t shake. I subscribe to Matt Mullenweg’s very apt quote (paraphrased) “The advertisers are the customers in Facebook. You are the product.”

Rdio shouldn’t be compared to Facebook, but the fact that I pay for it means I know what the product/customer relationship is.

3 thoughts on “The State of Digital Music: The Rdio Conversations”

  1. Great post and comments!

    Right. So… Is Rdio the Future of Music?

    The problem with these sorts of “x is the future of y” discussions, particularly where technology is concerned, is that x always changes the nature of y. Because of this, you can never quite arrive at point y.

    I see Rdio and it’s ilk bumping into a few issues shortly that run along these lines:

    1) The closer these services get to delivering on the promise of offering “almost everything” in the world of music, the more they will underscore what isn’t offered. Put another way, how much music needs to be available to make up for the fact that what you want to hear right now isn’t?

    2) Part of the appeal of these services lies in the social aspect, which presently is built on the enthusiasm of early adopters and music nerds. The tone and quality of the social interaction will change as more users sign on. Will Rdio still be compelling?

    3) Rdio is presently a novel way of trying to monetize music in a time where monetizing music is difficult. It’s an experiment that is occurring concurrently with other experiments at trying to resuscitate the monetization of music. A verdict will be reached. Recent high profile releases by Coldplay, Black Keys, Tom Waits — to name a few — are not present on Rdio. Presumably this is because posting on streaming services is viewed as possibly undermining the success of other channels, both experimental and traditional. Is this the start of a verdict being reached? Will this assessment be shared by others?

    Just a few thoughts.

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