I do agree that Facebook may be innovating. But I don’t believe it’s for any benevelent purpose. It’s their rules and little guys are at their mercy (I have the same issues with the Apple Appstore). I think this topic may be too big for this thread. Back to the music! 4 weeks ago
Jason Paul You now must have a Facebook acct to sign up for Spotify: http://getsatisfaction.com/spotify/topics/can_you_sign_up_for_spotify_without_f… This is another opportunity in a series of great opportunities for Rdio to position itself as THE sane alternative to Spotify. 4 weeks ago
Rhett C Large social sites and niche community sites do not have to struggle against each other for survival. The internet is teeming with vibrant niche communites.
Large social sites are not developed to kill niche communities. Why is it so common to attribute users’ behavior to the sites that they use? Rdio, Twitter, Facebook, etc. are not responsible for the way we use their sites or the Internet in general. Pardon the liberal use of the expression, but that is like putting the cart before the horse. We stick with the sites that provide the experiences we find satisfying. I suspect that most of the throngs of users having superficial conversations on Facebook are not going to engage in any deep exploration of their personal interests on a different site if Facebook suddenly vanished. Facebook provides an environment that is conducive to the interaction that millions of users find (to varying extents) valuable.
Just like Facebook, Amazon, and Google were forced to to innovate their systems when they outgrew their technology, we should not expect that any particular ad model to scale in step with their operating costs.
Also, these titans have a history of sharing many of their innovations with the rest of the development community. The “little guys” definitely benefit from the millions of dollars theses companies spend on innovation.
@Gretchen: if it’s any relief, the Rdio app (currently) can 1) post status messages, notes, photos, and videos on your behalf 2) Add app activity to your timeline 3) Access any the above at any time Since these permissions clearly facilitate the functionality of the Rdio ticker, they seem appropriate. Also, any can presumably access your basic information, and while this does contain a list of friends, it does not directly contain information about them. Like you however, I was a little nervous about what the app was doing in my stead before I learned about the new features. The FB popups were quite helpful, however, in delivering “the skinny”.
@JP – regarding an interest in ads: IMO, there is nothing wrong with considering or even clicking on any particular online ad. 5 weeks ago
Jason Paul I think this story on Paid content about REM and the early social web really enhances the coversation we’re having about niche social networks. I hope Rdio goes mainstream so it lasts, but otherwise I think I like that it’s small and our voices actually get heard. Social media went mainstream with Facebook and kind of diluted everything. Something we had before was lost. http://paidcontent.co.uk/article/419-r.e.m.-and-the-end-of-online-community/ 5 weeks ago
Jason Paul I have to appreciate that TechCrunch not-so-subtly seems to be in the legitimizing Rdio camp http://techcrunch.com/2011/09/23/go-beyond-ticker-use-facebook-music-dashboard-… 5 weeks ago
David Crompton I don’t find myself disagreeing about any of these points. @Tod I have no problem believing you found Rdio was best of the bunch in your research–when it comes down to it I have very few complaints about the experience. In terms of social functionality I’m really just looking for a few things; not a whole social makeover. I’ll skip the details for the here and now as there are some pretty in-depth discussions of that stuff elsewhere in the lists.