The State of Digital Music: The Rdio Conversations

as always, ymmv! 3 months ago

Jason Paul @gRetChen I guess i mean more of a lowercase transparency. On Facebook it’s pretty difficult to access your own data in a way you’d actually be interested in. On the Rdio desktop app it really has more info about what you’ve done in the application then you probably even need to know. And as far as I know Spotify does not tally listens or at least doesn’t display the numbers. I really like knowing that Foster the People is blowing up and all that.

As for the Queue I’ve never had much luck with it on my iPhone and that’s unfortunately carrying over to the iPad. And I wasn’t paying attention…but queue is mysteriously empty…unless I actually finished (unlikely) 3 months ago

Melanie @SlowlyConvalescing- No Abine for Chrome, but there are tons of similar add-ons to manage online privacy/security. I use this one for a host of web-scrubbing tasks, including flash cookies- . And this one lets me know who is tracking me, how they’re doing it & how to block it- . Fight the man!

Sorry for going a bit off-topic here, ya’ll. 3 months ago

GrEtcHen JP, can you expand on what you mean by transparency? The UI or their practices? Something else?

And watch out adding stuff to the queue while running two separate devices. That’s a sure way to blow away your whole list. Unless they’ve fixed that…which would be great. I do the same thing — use my iTouch to stream music, even at home. 3 months ago

Jason Paul More iPad schpielle. No play stats. I love play stats. And no bio info. I love that too. It’s really a different experience. It’s actually great for listening to music. I really hope it gets more comprehensive though. Rdio has something that so few social networks do. Transparency. And to lose that would probably make me less interested/loyal. 3 months ago

Jason Paul And the Queue oh the queue. On the iPad It is just not the amazingness that it is on the desktop app. One album at a time I guess…or wait…playlists. yeah, that’s it! 3 months ago

Jason Paul @Caw it’s more like a comprehensive media player. At least in my setup it’s the new ‘stereo’ whereas the iPhone player was the portable walkman. I imagine I’ll keep the iPad Rdio app playing in the background. And to chit chat…well, the Rdio app is now reduced to ‘IRC’ on the desktop heh. 3 months ago

CAW a.k.a. The Aquatic Ape So it’s just like a higher-res version of the iPhone app, Jason? 3 months ago

Jason Paul I’m very happy they finally released the iPad app. Unfortunately it keeps thinking it’s not online on my non-3g iPad (but still plays music). Also, @CAW the social aspect is very slim. You can see your feed but you can’t review playlists or albums as we all hoped. That’s really unfortnate. I suppose we all really want Rdio to be more than it is, but it looks like they’re more focused on music (and why shouldn’t they be) then our own input and interactions. Or maybe, hopefully, it’s coming! Also, I’m not too pleased with the Queue so far (the one feature I use more than anythign else) but maybe I’m still getting the hang of it. 3 months ago

Jason Paul Shite @skydivingrhino you stole my thunder. I’m about to check that out! 3 months ago

skydivingrhino (rob) just updated to the iPad app … basically a trumped up version of the iPhone app, but at least it makes use of the screen 3 months ago

Slowly Convalescing Melanie, what Chrome extension? I use Firefox and have a lovely extension called Abine that blocks tracking cookies and stores your passwords etc. on your computer instead of in your browser. The list of cookies it deletes from every site is pretty amazing (4-16 per site, every site). I recommend, if it’s available for your browser of choice.

What does everyone think of the UI changes? (I assume these are being made because of the encroaching shadow of Spotify)

Also, I’m interesting in the semantics of Zombie Cookies. Are these cookies made OF zombies? Or made BY zombies? Or perhaps they’re snickerdoodles with flavor that lingers in your mouth and makes you want to eat brains? 3 months ago

4 thoughts on “The State of Digital Music: The Rdio Conversations”

  1. Great post and comments!

    Right. So… Is Rdio the Future of Music?

    The problem with these sorts of “x is the future of y” discussions, particularly where technology is concerned, is that x always changes the nature of y. Because of this, you can never quite arrive at point y.

    I see Rdio and it’s ilk bumping into a few issues shortly that run along these lines:

    1) The closer these services get to delivering on the promise of offering “almost everything” in the world of music, the more they will underscore what isn’t offered. Put another way, how much music needs to be available to make up for the fact that what you want to hear right now isn’t?

    2) Part of the appeal of these services lies in the social aspect, which presently is built on the enthusiasm of early adopters and music nerds. The tone and quality of the social interaction will change as more users sign on. Will Rdio still be compelling?

    3) Rdio is presently a novel way of trying to monetize music in a time where monetizing music is difficult. It’s an experiment that is occurring concurrently with other experiments at trying to resuscitate the monetization of music. A verdict will be reached. Recent high profile releases by Coldplay, Black Keys, Tom Waits — to name a few — are not present on Rdio. Presumably this is because posting on streaming services is viewed as possibly undermining the success of other channels, both experimental and traditional. Is this the start of a verdict being reached? Will this assessment be shared by others?

    Just a few thoughts.


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