The State of Digital Music: The Rdio Conversations

Jason Paul @Karen I’ll have to dig deeper into Spotify. I guess I just haven’t spent enough time with the interface. For me, things like having the play controls on the botton are annoying. And I really like stats on how much something is played. I don’t see anything like that on Spotify. I like the transparency and community-ness of Rdio. I think on Rdio playlists go hand-in-hand with community. On Spotify it looks like it’s a classic playlist for your own personal satisfaction and while friends can look and subscribe, they can’t comment or collaborate (so far). It’s two very different paradigms. I would say Spotify is more like iTunes on steroids. Rdio is a particular niche for audiofiles who like having a community to talk about/review the music their listening to. I guess I’ve found I’m the latter.

I do think the forthcoming Rdio iPad app could be the game changer though. Where the Rdio paradigm is going to make the most sense. 3 months ago

Zachariah Hoffman Sign me up for this type of community chatter! This is what I’ve been looking for. 3 months ago

Jason Paul Not seeing it…but then again, i’m very bewildered by the Spotify interface. It all seems counterintuitive. Then again I was told by a client that Europeans design things differently over there. What’s Spotify social? Seems like every little bit of Spotify is overhyped and not as good as its supposed to be. 3 months ago

Turd Ferguson Anyone notice that they added Artist Radio to Spotify? I noticed the tab under Spoon. 3 months ago

justin c Since this seems to be where al the chatter is lately, I thought I’d share this off topic link:

http://wugazi.com/

Wugazi = Wu Tang + Fugazi

I’ve been enjoying it all evening. 3 months ago

David Crompton That would be crazy enough to work, Jason. 3 months ago

Jason Paul bizarre thought. Just like we’ve been inundated for years of the imminent US release of Spotify…maybe Rdio is pulling the same thing with Europe. Seriously, I think part of Rdio’s strategy in the US is to wait for Spotify to ‘soften’ the market for subscription music. Then when everybody’s open to it but still fresh slam them with marketing for a superior product. 3 months ago

GrEtcHen A ha. Oh, it’s the Flash thing, eh? Now I remember…

Oh, and I’ve noticed a new trend…splitting things up:

– within apps and online. Some of us are playing around with FB and Google+ to create music related groups — both have some methods for keeping your various social circles separate. I have created a whole separate FB account, but I’m also part of a “locked” Music group with FB. Google+ has the “circles” feature.

– doing work on one device (usually desktop/laptop) and streaming music via another (smartphone/iTouch/iPad/etc.) — probably because a lot of us work in tech, and need the full capacity of our work device.

Is this the pendulum swinging away from convergence? 3 months ago

Matt Marine Nope…at least not that I know of. 3 months ago

GrEtcHen confused. can’t you run the browser version of Rdio on an iPad? 3 months ago

Jason Paul @CAW from that video it looks like the iPad app is very similar to the desktop app. As soon as it’s released I’ll post to this forum and hopefully from the iPad app! 3 months ago

weown thesky @Jason Paul I don’t use facebook so I have no community involvement with Spotify. I’m sure I can’t be the only one. Not to mention, even if I did, I don’t think I’d want to mix the two… If I have a friend that finds a good album, usually they just tell me in person, I don’t have to look at their facebook page.

Another thought… on Rdio with the colorful album covers, I feel like I’m flipping through other users milk crates of LPs for stuff that looks interesting… On Spotify with its spreadsheet format I feel more like I’m just looking at other users iTunes databases. 3 months ago

skydivingrhino (rob) CAW – not only does it kick you to the app, but there is no dedicated iPad app yet so you have to use the iPhone app 3 months ago

3 thoughts on “The State of Digital Music: The Rdio Conversations”

  1. Great post and comments!

    Right. So… Is Rdio the Future of Music?

    The problem with these sorts of “x is the future of y” discussions, particularly where technology is concerned, is that x always changes the nature of y. Because of this, you can never quite arrive at point y.

    I see Rdio and it’s ilk bumping into a few issues shortly that run along these lines:

    1) The closer these services get to delivering on the promise of offering “almost everything” in the world of music, the more they will underscore what isn’t offered. Put another way, how much music needs to be available to make up for the fact that what you want to hear right now isn’t?

    2) Part of the appeal of these services lies in the social aspect, which presently is built on the enthusiasm of early adopters and music nerds. The tone and quality of the social interaction will change as more users sign on. Will Rdio still be compelling?

    3) Rdio is presently a novel way of trying to monetize music in a time where monetizing music is difficult. It’s an experiment that is occurring concurrently with other experiments at trying to resuscitate the monetization of music. A verdict will be reached. Recent high profile releases by Coldplay, Black Keys, Tom Waits — to name a few — are not present on Rdio. Presumably this is because posting on streaming services is viewed as possibly undermining the success of other channels, both experimental and traditional. Is this the start of a verdict being reached? Will this assessment be shared by others?

    Just a few thoughts.

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