The State of Digital Music: The Rdio Conversations

Matt Marine @CAW – You have to use the app, which blows on the ipad. That’s why I never use it. 3 months ago

Turdish Burl Ignoring the fact Spotify isn’t available in Canada, a proprietary desktop app means it’s a non-starter for Linux users like myself. Cross platform web app or go home! 3 months ago

CAW a.k.a. The Aquatic Ape Hey, Jason, as regards using rdio on the iPad, do you get to use the web-interface or does it kick you out to the far-inferior app-based interface? I’m on the verge of taking the plunge with an iPad but would be rather pissed to learn that I couldn’t post comments like this from it – the prohibition on the iPhone infuriates me (last.fm has a nice iPhone work-around; why doesn’t rdio? 3 months ago

Jason Paul @weown the sky totally agree! Spotify is still a ghost town as far as my own personal network (whose tastes are often not even close to mine anyway). Honestly, I found the UI incredibly confusing too. Looking forward to getting Rdio off of my MacbookPro because it’s a recource hog for the type of work I do. Another thing to move over to the iPad which I now use for 50% of all internet related leisure activities. 3 months ago

weown thesky I signed up for Spotify… I can see the appeal in the desktop app and super fast music playback… but with no sense of community like on here, I felt… alone.

Rdio’s big appeal to me is the “Your Network” feature where I’ve selected some people with excellent musical tastes to follow… I’ve already found more great music following some of you guys and gals in the past week than I have in a few years. 3 months ago

weown thesky That iPad app looks awesome… good for Rdio on getting that out there. Hopefully they modify the iPhone app in the next release to match the desktop app and iPad app and make the theme black/graphite/charcoal (whatever you call that color) instead of light blue. 3 months ago

Matt Marine Thanks for that heads up @JP. I’m really looking forward to that. I use the ipad a lot when I take off, and will be nice to have something besides the phone to check out Rdio. Kind of hard to see albums and such on the phone. Hopefully Apple won’t take forever to approve it.

And after just watching the video showing it in action, I’m really looking forward to it. Looks like a very user friendly interface, and not a huge change. 3 months ago

Jason Paul It’s a battle. I cannot wait for this one! First Look: Rdio’s iPad App Now Awaiting Apple’s Approval, We Go Hands-On: http://techcrunch.com/2011/07/19/rdio-ipad-app/ 3 months ago

wifeonthefarm I step away for a weekend and all hell breaks loose around here. I bit the bullet and signed up for free Spotify, too. On there as wifeonthefarm. Maybe I’m just getting old and grouchy but I don’t have it in me to play around with yet another music site. Rdio and Last.fm are my discovery/streaming sites, and I really don’t need a cloud storage site. Except for the playlist vs. blurb issue, Rdio meets most of my music needs. When I’m away from my laptop, I use the Rdio and last.fm iphone apps and rarely feel the need to find an obscure track from my local music files. Sounds like that’s also the general consensus around here. 3 months ago

Jason Paul Thanks everyone for some amazing dialog. I will eventually archive this thread on my blog at http://jasonpaul.net and I’ll let you know when I’ve done that. I Talked to some people at a BBQ yesterday. 30 somethings. Word on the street. Despite all the media hype none of them had heard of Spotify (no less Rdio which is nothing new). So perhaps it’s a slower movement to subscription music than I was hoping for with the Spotify announcement. I currently am only connected to 7 people in my Spotify account. That’s remarkably slim considering that within a few days of Joining Google+ I’d almost replicated half of my Facebook network. I think we need to root for Spotify. In truth, I don’t think it’s that great right now, and certainly not better than Rdio. But they do have the hype to bust the subscription door down. I guess most Americans stubbornly cling to their comfort zones. It kind of surprises me the stubborn resistance to change. Truth is if you’re on Rdio or Spotify, you’re not like that majority. But only when the majority changes does the culture change. 3 months ago

3 thoughts on “The State of Digital Music: The Rdio Conversations”

  1. Great post and comments!

    Right. So… Is Rdio the Future of Music?

    The problem with these sorts of “x is the future of y” discussions, particularly where technology is concerned, is that x always changes the nature of y. Because of this, you can never quite arrive at point y.

    I see Rdio and it’s ilk bumping into a few issues shortly that run along these lines:

    1) The closer these services get to delivering on the promise of offering “almost everything” in the world of music, the more they will underscore what isn’t offered. Put another way, how much music needs to be available to make up for the fact that what you want to hear right now isn’t?

    2) Part of the appeal of these services lies in the social aspect, which presently is built on the enthusiasm of early adopters and music nerds. The tone and quality of the social interaction will change as more users sign on. Will Rdio still be compelling?

    3) Rdio is presently a novel way of trying to monetize music in a time where monetizing music is difficult. It’s an experiment that is occurring concurrently with other experiments at trying to resuscitate the monetization of music. A verdict will be reached. Recent high profile releases by Coldplay, Black Keys, Tom Waits — to name a few — are not present on Rdio. Presumably this is because posting on streaming services is viewed as possibly undermining the success of other channels, both experimental and traditional. Is this the start of a verdict being reached? Will this assessment be shared by others?

    Just a few thoughts.

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