The State of Digital Music: The Rdio Conversations

hard to tell what rdio’s real objectives are wrt endgame for their investment. now with the entry of spotify, they now have some real competition. but i would not count out the Skype founders. they have deep connections and know what they are doing.

@gretchen, you’re definitely right about the lala connection. the core group that i’ve seen here doing interesting things really came from lala. & myself from imeem before that (another interesting model) based on sharing playlists. they had a great following in the euro community and i discovered a lot of new music from that link.

@lacy, interesting you mentioned that you listened to woxy before bill n. @lala bought them. i recall that bill n bought woxy primarily to get into the so-called digital radio market. he was able to flip that into the 1st version of lala which was basically a cd trading service which he then flipped into the lala that many of us came to know and love. i definitely wouldn’t count out bill n. despite his flop with color. he’s a super bright guy and definitely looking at many interations down the road.

looking forward to having time to try out spotify… 3 months ago

David Crompton The big win for me associated with arrival of Spotify will be the kick in the ass it provides to Rdio. I love Rdio and plan to love it more when direction competition leads to enhancements. 3 months ago

dbeachy so this is where i should’ve hung out while i was getting nothing done today? great discussion all. after the death of lala, i’m always waiting for something to come and kill rdio. i don’t think that thing is spotify and think (hope?) rdio can continue to exist as a music nerd haven. i agree with maudeman, the catalog updates have been great but the features go nowhere. just about every discussion at that help link to the bottom left ends in “thanks, we’ll pass along your input.” argh! 3 months ago

Matt Marine Yeah, I agree with you @JF. I just hope this pushes Rdio to really push to improve. Enhancements seem to be fairly stagnant lately. Some of the biggest requests seem to be pretty small to this non-progammer. 4 months ago

John Fowler Drunk me wants to listen to Owen on Spotify. Well guess what, there’s no Polyvinyl artists there either. And 1 or 2 Sub Pop releases showed up, certainly not their entire (AWESOME) catalog. Spotify has a (little) bit better audio quality than Rdio, but hopefully Rdio can improve on that to stay competitive. Thing is, I’m big into indie labels and Spotify can’t do that for me right now. They’ve got the big 4, but where’s the little guys? And Rdio seems to be consistently tapping into those sources. That’s my tangent for this evening. Drunk me is going to listen to Owen now. On Rdio. 🙂 4 months ago

Matt Marine Fooling with Spotify some more. Appears Sub Pop is there now. And they do do (hah!) something I wish Rdio did, adding whole albums to a playlist. That drives me nuts here. 4 months ago

David Crompton ok sub-tangent: Anyone using Google+? Anyone had any luck posting a proper link to something [album for example] Rdio? 4 months ago

David Crompton Man–I just gobbled this one down in one serving. Gotta digest. 4 months ago

Jared Flores Ok, not sure if anyone else has discoverd this, or posted about it, but here’s something REALLY cool. Spotify Controller app for your phone… just downloaded it. Now I can control my desktop Spotify UI from my phone, and for the first time I have handheld control of my music throughout the whole house and the patio! Yippee! 4 months ago

Turdish Burl Not sure that I can equate valet service with the creation of and access to metadata. gets our money as well as our listening tastes, physical location(s) and access times, device details (browser, PC, phone, etc.), personal information (via the payment mechanism), etc. The API is obviously a step towards freeing up the metadata though it would be nice to see an export option on the user’s control panel.

4 thoughts on “The State of Digital Music: The Rdio Conversations”

  1. Great post and comments!

    Right. So… Is Rdio the Future of Music?

    The problem with these sorts of “x is the future of y” discussions, particularly where technology is concerned, is that x always changes the nature of y. Because of this, you can never quite arrive at point y.

    I see Rdio and it’s ilk bumping into a few issues shortly that run along these lines:

    1) The closer these services get to delivering on the promise of offering “almost everything” in the world of music, the more they will underscore what isn’t offered. Put another way, how much music needs to be available to make up for the fact that what you want to hear right now isn’t?

    2) Part of the appeal of these services lies in the social aspect, which presently is built on the enthusiasm of early adopters and music nerds. The tone and quality of the social interaction will change as more users sign on. Will Rdio still be compelling?

    3) Rdio is presently a novel way of trying to monetize music in a time where monetizing music is difficult. It’s an experiment that is occurring concurrently with other experiments at trying to resuscitate the monetization of music. A verdict will be reached. Recent high profile releases by Coldplay, Black Keys, Tom Waits — to name a few — are not present on Rdio. Presumably this is because posting on streaming services is viewed as possibly undermining the success of other channels, both experimental and traditional. Is this the start of a verdict being reached? Will this assessment be shared by others?

    Just a few thoughts.


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