And there’s also facebook/twitter social vs old-school conversation/real friend social. My feeling is having a gigantic catalog of music at your fingertips without much effort makes you more facebook/twitter social, but less good-ol’-deep-conversation-about-music social. Which seems to lean towards the Spotify model over Rdio’s. 4 months ago
GrEtcHen (heh heh JP is getting the full-on Rdio communication experience today..you asked for it, you get it buddy! But…it’s mainly the same core folks again…it’s really so difficult to draw others in as I said before…to begin with, not sure how many people can “see” this discussion going on. Sure, it’s all in the Everyone feed, but how many people look at that beyond their first follow?) 4 months ago
Crippling Niles “I’m fetishizing pristine sound quality.” Nice one, K Rom. That should be on a t-shirt… 4 months ago
Crippling Niles Nice essay, Jason. For me, it came down to the part where you said:
“Where Rdio is all about discovery iTunes leans more on traditional promotion. Discovery is much better for artists so their work can speak for itself.”
For me, Rdio is where it all starts. From there, I can decide if I want to continue streaming or purchase the CD or vinyl for higher fidelity and/or the “touchy feely factor” that is still very important to me for some albums.
When it’s time to throw my money down – like with any art – I still see the Album as a whole and singular product of many successful facets. From forming the right band, to creating the right songs at the right time, to working out all of the details as a group, to finding the right studio and engineer or producer to capture and present everything accurately, to putting together the artwork and finalizing the order of the songs for maximum impact, every piece of that puzzle and history are in my hands and worth supporting.
But returning to the quote above from your essay, this is all made even MORE rewarding when I know that these discoveries came from a group of peers with similar interests and/or fearless random hits of the Play button, as opposed to having them come from some corporation or advertiser’s marketing strategies. The power is shifting back to the artists and the music fans, which makes me smile. 4 months ago
Turd Ferguson I did just get my invite for Google Music…although it maxes out out 20,000 songs. 4 months ago
GrEtcHen @Turd, yes, the Turntable success has me ironically equally optimistic my longtime assessment social is incredibly important to people is correct. But, my fear is Spotify’s success will ratify a more limited model for a long time as the “norm” — and this will force the minority who want a holistic, integrated social experience to cobble it together from various sources, such as: Rdio for a music focused feed last.fm for private conversations and peering into what other people like Turntable for the “live” sharing/discovery experience etc.
edit: We used to moan that Lala was the gold standard for the highest amount of all of this in one place. We’ve gotten used to it being fragmented since. Barring anyone taking the Lala approach of being all things to all people, I guess sites leaning on each other would be acceptable. I just hate that the FB/Twitter option is the *only* option, other than Last.fm’s ubiquitous scrobbling.
BTW, meant to ask if anyone had tried AOL’s Play app. Apparently, Rdio is jumping into a space Lala was occupying (very successfully) — being the source for sampling music in another provider’s (this case, AOL) app! 4 months ago
GrEtcHen As a sidebar, I want to remark on how spaces for conversations have devolved utterly over time. It’s gone from thousands of newsgroups, separated by topic you had to proactively join, converging towards this one massive passive FB/Twitter-style feed. Weird! 4 months ago
Driggs I like sharing my music with my music friends. My Facebook friends, not so much.
I find that I actually have intelligent conversations and learn something new with my “music friends”. Rdio’s kludgy methods of social interaction make the conversations somehow more creative, underground, and fun.
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