The State of Digital Music: The Rdio Conversations

People will accept the Twitter/FB model because they already have these accounts, and as soon as they get a Spotify account, they are linked in. And this is sufficient for most people.

It’s a small subset of music nuts, er, people who want to talk only about music, and want features that integrate discussing music with exploring music (recs, playlists, or like we used to have on Lala, the ability to put a “play this track” link right into a comment). Those features are expensive to deploy, versus putting some hooks in for FB. 4 months ago

Crippling Niles Sounds like a British punk rock band… 4 months ago

Biker Chick we are such scrobble junkies. 4 months ago

Turd Ferguson I am hoping that there is a way to limit what you do and do not share on Facebook and Twitter. I probably have no interest in linking my Twitter or Facebook in all actuality. I do hope there is some sort of Lastfm scrobble link. 4 months ago

Turd Ferguson Speaking of Turdspam…Maudeman scolded me for commenting off topic in his playlist without having listened to said playlist. 4 months ago

Jason Paul @Gretchen…nice early report on Spotify. From your description it does sound pretty ick. I wonder how invasive their Twitter/Facebook piggy-backing is. I find it very manageable and civil on Rdio. I only Tweet or FB share something if I really think people in those networks will appreciate (which unfortunately is not very often). 4 months ago

Jason Paul Totally digging the banter! Reminds me of IRC or something (hopefully not dating myself too much). All Rdio really needs is a better Alert system to let you know when people are commenting on playlists. I’ve gone weeks without realizing people have left comments. There’s something mildly subversive about how communication happens on Rdio, like if I want to send you a message I have to share a track with you. But I like cassettes so… 4 months ago

GrEtcHen Been checking the Spotify features… – Glad someone is providing a player that integrates their catalog with the member’s collection. Meaning, like Turd indicated, you can play all your stuff alongside all their stuff. I don’t anyone else has that feature right now. – There’s no “feed” on Spotify– looks like it leans completely on your own Twitter/FB network for discovery and social…them claiming they have “social” is pretty misleading, they don’t, FB and Twitter do. – and it reveals what you’re doing in Spotify on FB? No thanks. 4 months ago

Crippling Niles Heh heh. Turdspam. Sorry, I’m done now. 4 months ago

Biker Chick Do too! Now it is your turn to pull my hair or jab me with a stick or something. Then I tattle and you get in trouble. Are you sure you aren’t one of my brothers?

Sorry Jason… We now return your very informative and insightful thread to you 🙂 4 months ago

Turd Ferguson No you don’t… 4 months ago

Biker Chick Yes, it does. FB is in everything. Hate it. 4 months ago

Turd Ferguson You would soooooo miss it…I think. I took a look and it does look like Spotify has Twitter and Facebook integration of some sort. I can’t mess with it until tonight to find out. I will report back. 4 months ago

GrEtcHen So here’s a perfect example of a feature Rdio needs: the ability to filter unwanted Turdspam from our feeds. 4 months ago

Turd Ferguson I bet you’ve never smelled a real school bus before… 4 months ago

Biker Chick It is true.. I am a professional. Kids don’t try this at home. 4 months ago

Turd Ferguson Gretchen, I can still do that on my free Rdio account. Not to worry…BC knows all the good ways to stalk me. 4 months ago

CAW a.k.a. The Aquatic Ape You bet I do, Turd. Gummy bear? They’ve been in my pocket. They’re real warm and soft. 4 months ago

GrEtcHen Turd, I don’t think Spotify has a way to broadcast your Twitter and FB links…isn’t that a deal killer for you? 4 months ago

Turd Ferguson CAW likes me…he really, really likes me… 4 months ago

4 thoughts on “The State of Digital Music: The Rdio Conversations”

  1. Great post and comments!

    Right. So… Is Rdio the Future of Music?

    The problem with these sorts of “x is the future of y” discussions, particularly where technology is concerned, is that x always changes the nature of y. Because of this, you can never quite arrive at point y.

    I see Rdio and it’s ilk bumping into a few issues shortly that run along these lines:

    1) The closer these services get to delivering on the promise of offering “almost everything” in the world of music, the more they will underscore what isn’t offered. Put another way, how much music needs to be available to make up for the fact that what you want to hear right now isn’t?

    2) Part of the appeal of these services lies in the social aspect, which presently is built on the enthusiasm of early adopters and music nerds. The tone and quality of the social interaction will change as more users sign on. Will Rdio still be compelling?

    3) Rdio is presently a novel way of trying to monetize music in a time where monetizing music is difficult. It’s an experiment that is occurring concurrently with other experiments at trying to resuscitate the monetization of music. A verdict will be reached. Recent high profile releases by Coldplay, Black Keys, Tom Waits — to name a few — are not present on Rdio. Presumably this is because posting on streaming services is viewed as possibly undermining the success of other channels, both experimental and traditional. Is this the start of a verdict being reached? Will this assessment be shared by others?

    Just a few thoughts.


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